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Übertrag Thema: Derekh Erez ------------------------------------------------------- Von Eva (Eva) am Mittwoch, den 16. Februar, 2000 - 03:37: Wenn Sie Ihre Nachricht schreiben, beachten Sie dieselben Höflichkeitsregeln, als würden Sie sich von Angesicht zu Angesicht unterhalten. Einschüchterungen, Beleidigungen, Hetze, Lügen und persönliche Angriffe werden nicht toleriert. Jede Diskussion lebt durch unterschiedliche Meinungen, Ideen und Informationen. Ansichten sollten aber stets mit Respekt gegenüber den anderen Teilnehmern vertreten werden. Beachten Sie auch, dass die jeweiligen Nachrichten die Meinung des Verfassers wiederspiegeln - nicht die der Betreiber dieses Forums oder der Moderatoren. Empfehlungen zum Umgangston in Diskussions- und Kontaktgruppen finden Sie auch unter: Beleidigung und Verletzung im Internet ------------------------------------------------------- Von Harriet am Sonntag, den 12. März, 2000 - 02:27: I am very disturbed at the growing divisions between the Orthodox and secular communities in Israel in particular, and in Judaism, in general. The Jewish people are so few in number that we cannot afford such sharp and bitter divisions. Something must be done to bridge the gap. Many feel this is the single greatest issue facing the Jewish people today. The Talmud records that hatred was the principle cause for the destruction of the Second Temple. Factional struggle and petty vindictiveness destroyed the cohesion of the Jewish Commonwealth, condemning the Jews to 2,000 years of exile. Even when the Romans had besieged Jerusalem and total disaster was imminent, hostile groups within the city fought among themselves and plundered stores of food, causing terrible famine. ------------------------------------------------------- Von Aish am Sonntag, den 12. März, 2000 - 02:34: Today, as then, we have differences. What are the reasons for the religious-secular divide in Israel today? One can point many fingers -- the factional nature of the political system, or the media which constantly stirs animosity in order to sell more papers. But I think it comes down to a basic lack of understanding between both sides. We differ greatly in our understanding of the authority of Torah and its role in shaping the cultural and legal character of the modern State of Israel. In short, the religious feel that Torah is that which has always distinguished our people -- and in today's volatile world it is more valuable than ever. The secular take a somewhat opposite approach: Specifically because of Torah's unique lifestyle, it prevents Israel from full integration into the community of nations. Indeed, this is a wide gulf. Yet because we have differences, that doesn't mean the other side is less intelligent, less well-motivated, or less desirous of truth than ourselves. Our differences mean we disagree. Men of good will can and must disagree about matters of great importance without questioning their love or commitment for one another. Two people who learn together will battle passionately, says the Talmud, and end more committed to their friendship because their disagreements express a common search for truth. We cannot afford for this to become polarized into a matter of "us against them." Each and every Jew is completely integral to our mission -- regardless of their beliefs or level of observance. One of the spices used in the incense at the Holy Temple was the foul-smelling "galbanum," from which the Talmud (Kritot 6b) derives that even the worst amongst us are inextricably bound into the community of Israel. Further, all Jews must be united in order for our nation to succeed. In Exodus 19:2, which says the Jewish people camped at Mount Sinai, the word for "camped" is written in the singular -- to indicate that they were "like one person with one heart." Says the Midrash: If the Jewish People were lacking just one person from the 600,000 at Sinai, they could not have received the Torah. So what is being done about all this? A few organizations have sprung up devoted to Jewish unity. For instance, one group called Common Denominator (http://www.unity.org.il) brings groups of very secular kibbutzniks into very religious homes is Mea Sharim, for the simple purpose of having them sit down over coffee and get to know each other as long-lost cousins. Surely this is only a start. The key is that we each take whatever small steps from our own side to help build a bridge. It's all a matter of attitude. Rabbi Baruch Ber Leibowitz, one of the great rabbis of 20th century Europe, was quoted as saying: "When I will stand before the heavenly court and they ask me, 'What merit have you brought with you?' -- what shall I answer? Torah? Is my Torah knowledge worthy enough to be mentioned? Fear of Heaven? Are my deeds worthy of that description? There is only one thing I could possibly claim -- that I loved every Jew with all my heart. Whenever I walk in the street and I see a Jew, one thought comes to me: A blessing on his head!" The Talmud says that in each generation in which the Temple is not rebuilt, it is as though it has been destroyed. If hatred destroyed the Temple, then the only way of repair is by making the maximum effort to love every member of the Jewish people. We must seize that chance now... before famine grips Jerusalem once again. Many thanx to Rabbi Nachum Braverman ------------------------------------------------------- Von Reuven Schlenker am Montag, den 12. Juni, 2000 - 23:17: Shalom Aish, I assume you attended Rav Bravender's yeshivah. I didn't but a haver of mine at Yeshiva University was there one summer. The question of our glaring and often acriminous differences I believe is the deepest concern in Yahdut today. Not only between the observant and secular Jews but even between the so-called "Orthodoxy," (I dislike that word). Yiddishkeit in the 1950's and through much of the '60s Jews identity was determined by the simple acknowledgement that yes "Ikh bin a yid." Certainly there were differences between the secularistn "di freyer Yidn" and us but the very kiyam of Yisrael was largely their achievement. One need merely go to a a HaShomer Ha-tsair Kibuts and count the graves. The precarious Jewish hamshekh brought us together, and we WERE so proud of all the Chalutsim, as we felt about Tsiviah Lubetkin, Antek Zukerman, Abba Kovner and other ghetto fighters. What happened? Sometime in the 1970's with the onset of the Teshuvah movement, Yiddishkeit took a narrow turn to the right. My Tate blames it all on what he calls the "Hungarian influence." He says the talmidim that went off to learn in Mamorash returned squinty-eyed and narrowly rigid. And that seems to the present derekh. Two years ago a group of rabbonim, many of the Y.U. boys set up an organization, Edah, which would have mutual learning with Conservative Jewry, primarily JTS talmidim. The Roshei Yeshivot did everything but put them in Herem hamor. Do we have wait for another Hitler yemah shmo, to remind us that we are all Jews. Kol tuv Reuven Osher ------------------------------------------------------- Von Dani am Freitag, den 28. Juli, 2000 - 11:14: "Those humiliated who do not humiliate in turn, who hear their insult and do not retort, who do everything out of love and rejoice in their own affliction are like the sun bursting forth in all its glory." Shabbos 88b |